Innova Star Thunderbird - Factory Seconds Weight:167-169 This is the same mold

This is the same mold used for the KC

It holds the line you put it on and is very controllable

The Harp is a very reliable approach disc

like a bladder compartment for hydration or easy putter access and a firm molded back panel for even better ventilation on hot days

Innova Star Thunderbird - Factory Seconds Weight:167-169 This is the same moldX Outs or Factory Seconds are discs that may have cosmetic blemishes, stamp dropouts, or other reasons the disc was classified this way. Flight is not affected. These are a great way to try out new plastic at a more affordable price. The Innova Thunderbird is said to be predictable in the wind, but not so overstable that its hard to keep straight. If youre looking for a consistent driving disc just faster than the TeeBird3, the Thunderbird is the next